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filmulete

Metode contraceptive traditionale si moderne. Bebelusul: programare sau surpriza? Experiente, dezbateri pro si contra pentru diferite metode contraceptive.

Postby LORIANA » Thu Nov 02, 2006 2:51 pm

Dupa parerea mea, nu...insa, vezi tu...nu e o parere generala.
Am vazut si eu filmuletele (sau ma rog o parte dintre ele caci n-am rezistat mai mult [dead] ), iar la momentul cu pricina mi-am primit si eu perdafu'....asta e.

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Postby cenush » Fri Nov 03, 2006 4:49 pm

Cu riscul de a-mi lua portia de rosii va spun ca anticonceptionalele nu au efect abortiv. Ci inhiba ovulatia. Si chiar daca printr-o intamplare se produce fecundatia si nu se poate fixa ovulul fecundat nu poti spune ca ai omorat o fiinta. Sunt doar 2-4-6 celule.
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Postby cristina2012 » Fri Nov 03, 2006 11:11 pm

Anticonceptionalele au efect abortiv, pentru ca impiedica nidatia oului. Din punct de vedere medical, impiedicarea nidatiei inseamna efect abortiv (= lepadarea produsului de conceptie). E adevarat ca in principal ele inhiba ovulatia, dar acest efect e ceva mai slab la pilule microdozate si ultramicrodozate. Mai exista si mecanismul de modificare a glerei cervicale, impiedicand astfel patrunderea spermatozoizilor.
Bun, toate bune si frumoase, dar se mai intampla sa se produca ovulatie si sa avem un ovul fecundat. Sansa acestuia de a se nida este foarte mica, datorita subtierii mucoasei uterine. Oul moare. Poti sa consideri ca sunt doar cateva celule (mai mult de 6 [:D] ), si atunci esti ok.
Poti sa nu iei in considerare punctul de vedere crestin care sustine ca exact in clipa fecundatiei, oul primeste si suflet, pentru ca omul nu poate vietui fara suflet. Acele celule sunt totusi ceva distinct de celulele mamei si ale tatalui. E o noua finta, care are viata in ea, traieste si vrea sa traiasca (la nivelul ei de atunci), dar e ceva mai putin dezvoltata decat un adult, un copil sau un fat.
Marea majoritate a oamenilor considera ca acele celule nu inseamna un om, ca altfel nu ar mai fi anticonceptionalele principala sursa de venit pentru industria farmaceutica [czid] . Asa considera ei, asa spun si multi medici... Sunt multi care considera fatul ca nefiind om, ca urmare n-au retineri sa-l sfartece in bucati...
Biologic, insa in momentul fecundatiei a inceput viata unui nou individ. E asa ca atunci cand o bacterie se divide. Avem 2 indivizi care poseda insusirile speciei. Acest individ contine in el toate insusirile specifice speciei sale. Daca omul are suflet, atunci si embrionul trebuie sa-l aiba. Nu putem lega sufletul de stadiul de dezvoltare, pentru ca ar trebui in acel moment sa consideram ca un copil nascut prematur nu are suflet sau are mai putin suflet [:D] , la fel si un handicapat. Asta inseamna statut subuman... hmmm, asa nu-i in ordine.
Nu vreau sa supar pe nimeni (poate doar pe producatorii de anticonceptionale [:D] ), fiecare crede ceea ce i se pare bun de crezut, face ce stie si stie ce face, nu-i traba mea sa judec pe cineva, am expus doar o parere, deci... [floare] [floare] [floare]
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Postby cristina2012 » Fri Nov 03, 2006 11:17 pm

Din pacate mai exista un efect abortiv indirect. Uneori, o sarcina dorita, este pierduta pentru ca mucoasa uterina degenerata in urma efectelor pilulei nu poate sustine respectiva sarcina si bebele dorit e avortat. Alteori bebe rezista in ciuda hormoilor din pilula. Avem cazuri pe forum de astfel de luptatori [bis] [bis] .
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Postby diacriss » Sat Nov 04, 2006 6:53 pm

Nu cred ca a fost prea intelept din partea mea sa vad filmuletul!!! [czid] M-am ingrozit!
Cristina ca de obicei spui numai lucruri adevarate!Si sunt de acord cu tine!Si totusi,chiar daca contraceptivele au efect abortiv mai bine sa fie folosite decat sa se ajunga la avorturi in luni mari!
Nu sunt Dumnezeu sa judec faptele altora,dar totusi,cand exsta atatea metode contraceptive si accesul la informatie e permis oricui,cum e posibl sa se mai produca avorturi peste 14 saptamani?(exceptie cazurile cu feti malformati;desi . . .)Din punctul meu de vedere mai vinovati decat femeile care sunt de acord cu avortul este medicul care il practica!!!Cunosc medici ginecologi care nu fac asa ceva!!!Felicitari pentru ei!!!
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Postby Ramonella » Mon Nov 06, 2006 11:30 am

Salutare fetelor!!
Cristina,ce bine ai explicat!Eu luat pastile de 2 ani de zile,vroiam oricum sa le las din ianuarie,pt ca vroiam sa facem bebe,dar in ziua in care am aflat ca au efect avortiv le-am intrerupt automat.
Eu vin de pe alt forum,acolo am creat un subiect pe aceasta tema,dar am primit multe rosii in cap...asta e...desi le-am adus mai multe dovezi...multe spuneau ca sunt luate de pe diferite siteuri religioase,intradevar scrie si pe sfaturi ortodoxe,dar am inteles ca acelasi lucru scrie si pe anticonceptionale.ro.
Ceea ce ma enerveaza pe mine,este faptul ca se ascunde acest lucru de catre medici,de catre firmele care produc aceste pastile.Plus efectele secundare pe care acestea le produc...printre care libidou scazut,lubrifiere deloc...toate acestea le-am simtit pe pielea mea....acum cand am renuntat la ele e foarte binee.. [:D]
Cred ca voi deschide un nou subiect:pro si contra anticonceptionale...

Cristina,toti sunt copii tai???Sa-ti traiasca!!!Ce frumosi sunt!!!

Va pupacesc pe toate!!
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Postby doriana_lee » Wed Nov 08, 2006 8:20 am

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Postby Ramonella » Wed Nov 08, 2006 11:07 am

Doriana e super initiativa ta cu site-ul [cool] .E bine ca cineva se gandeste si la aceste lucruri!!!Te poti baza pe mine in lupta impotriva avortului!!!Mai tinem legatura!!

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