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Cat timp ne acordam,noua, mamicilor? Cum ne simtim ca proaspete mamici?

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Postby ananda » Sun Oct 15, 2006 11:15 pm

cartea lui Liedloff? despre ce carte e vorba? daca ai ceva carti in format electronic in franceza, italiana sau engleza nu te sfii sa mi le trimiti la photomirror2005@yahoo.com! [:D] o sa-mi ia o vreme sa citesc tot ce am, dar eu adun informatie cam cum aduna altii bani! [:D]
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Postby gazzella » Mon Oct 16, 2006 5:07 pm

Superb daca zici ca te descurci cu italiana
Diseara dupa ce-l culc iti caut niste link-uri referitoare la cartea lui Liedloff, e vorba despre acel trib amazonian
Intre timp arunca o privire peste asta
http://www.copilulmeu.ro/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3103&highlight=intarcarea

Felix si-a facut singur diversificarea.
Un alt exemplu...
In primavara, 23 aprilie, mergem la lac, vede apa, se dezbraca si intra in apa.
Ma ia de mama sa ma duca in apa, ii explic ca eu in apa inghetata nu intru, dar daca el vrea sa intre e liber sa o faca. S-a balacit vreo 2 ore dupa care am plecat. Nu mi-a racit, el mi-a racit o singura data de la aerul conditionat de la masina. Dupa mine apa era rece, dupa el nu suficient de rece ca sa nu intre.
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Postby ananda » Mon Oct 16, 2006 8:11 pm

ania acum am realizat cine e liedloff, desi m-am gandit foarte mult la acel articol in ultimele cateva zile! [czid] pur si simplu nu am memoria numelor! [cfev]

e vorba de articolul acesta: http://www.continuum-concept.org/reading/whosInControl.html

tot ce povesteste ea acolo e extrem de interesant si e foarte util de stiut. dar nu sunt sigura ca toate acele chestii functioneaza la fel pentru o mamica si un copil dintr-o societate industrializata.

sa incerc sa explic de ce:

1. in societatile primitive femeile devin mame foarte devreme, asta le face sa fie destul de apropiate ca varsta de copiii lor si in acelasi timp sa fie mai sanatoase si cu mai multa energie decat o mama de 30 - 35 de ani. la 20 de ani m-as fi descurcat fara probleme sa car bebele in brate toata ziua si sa dorm 3 ore pe noapte a la longue (de fapt cam asa si dormeam), acum nu prea ma mai tin curelele si nu am decat 32.

2. in societatile primitive copilul nu e strict in grija mamei, sunt o sumedenie de persoane care se ocupa de el si care apartin toate aceluiasi model cultural si educational. eu nu pot conta pe nimeni sa-mi scoata copilul la plimbare iar daca vreau sa plec 2 ore de acasa le chem pe ambele bunici sa stea cu el si dupa 2 ore le gasesc extenuate... [czid]

3. in societatile primitive sotii nu se jeneaza sa faca dragoste cu copilul in pat. de fapt nici macar nu exista un pat ca atare, sunt de obicei frunze sau rogojini impletite intinse pe jos. nu e cazul in societatile moderne

4. in societatile primitive copilul este expus in general unui singur model educational, nu exista copii de 1 an dependenti de TV si de Cola. societatea de consum tinde sa transforme chiar si copiii foarte mici in consumatori. ma uitam zilele trecute la copilul meu cum se joaca cu acelasi entuziasm cu jucaria de 500.000 lei, cu cea de 10.000 lei sau - cel mai interesant - cu obiectele noastre care nu sunt deloc jucarii. si ma intrebam de ce dam atatia bani pe jucarii?

5. in societatile primitive rata mortalitatii infantile e imensa, in primul rand datorita conditiilor mizere de viata si alimentatiei insuficiente dar si datorita dificultatii de a trata corect anumite boli. asta e ceea ce nu se prea spune de catre cei care fac lobby pentru modul "natural" de viata...

6. in societatile primitive o femeie de varsta mea e considerata batrana si are de obicei nepoti [cool]

7. tinem copilul in brate sa vada ce facem: la calculator, la televizor, cand fumam (nu e cazul meu, dar...)

8. societatea moderna ne expune unor conditii de stress fara precedent si e firesc sa existe atat de multe probleme psihologice si nu numai... imi pun si eu problema: ce fac, plec undeva la tara unde viata e mai bucolica si mai sanatoasa dar unde cu siguranta nu m-as adapta din punct de vedere intelactual sau accept dezavantajele civilizatiei tehnice, antena GSM de pe blocul de vis-a-vis, poluarea, zgomotul permanent, etc?

asa cum spunea cineva cred ca in alt topic daca traim in acest mediu stressant e oare ok sa ne crestem copiii fara nici un fel de stress si sa ajunga la scoala unde lucrurile devin brusc absurd de obositoare? nu ii transformam din start in niste neadaptati?
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