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Forum CopilulMeu • View topic - Nu cumva mananca prea mult?...

Nu cumva mananca prea mult?...

Despre diversificarea alimentatiei. De ce nu mananca? Reactii adverse la diferite alimente.

Nu cumva mananca prea mult?...

Postby hostina » Fri Feb 23, 2007 11:02 am

Dragute Mamici,

Andrei al meu are 3 luni. Eu nu-l mai alaptez de la 1 luna jum., nu am mai avut lapte. De atunci ii dau Humana 1.

El s-a nascut cu 4,250 kg, deci cica era un copil de 1 luna. Totusi, ma sperie cat mananca: de cateva zile, la o masa mananca aproape 200 ml lapte. El are program ziua de mancare la 4h. Seara, adoarme pe la 16:30-17:00 pana la 23:30, cand ii fac baita si masaj. Atunci papa cam 130ml, iar noaptea pe la 04:00, din nou 130ml.

Si totusi, ziua nu mananca prea mult? - 200ml la 8-9:00, 200ml la 12:00-13:00, 200ml la 16:30.

Voi ce ziceti? Pe cutia de la Humana scrie ca un [bebe] de 3 luni trebuie sa pape 120ml la o masa... iar in luna a patra, 150ml.

Daca e important, va zic ca are acum 7,100 kg.

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Postby akki » Fri Feb 23, 2007 1:19 pm

lasa, fata cupilu-n pace!
daca era slab intrebai de ce nu papa!

da-i cat vrea, ca unii bebe e cam fomisti. [bis]
prietena mea e medic de familie - are-o fetita de 6 luni care are 10 kile...daca n-o hraneste sa se sature, tipa.

daca ti se pare tie ca-i prea gras, da-i mai putin latic si niste ceiuc in completare.
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Postby hostina » Fri Feb 23, 2007 1:41 pm

Bine, Akki....

Sper sa fie asa cum spui tu... Adevarul e ca si eu ma bucur. Ma gandeam ca e prea mult totusi...
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Postby akki » Fri Feb 23, 2007 1:47 pm

ma, daca femeia aia care-i medic de familie (si-nca unul competent, nu ca mi-ar fi prietena) zice ca-i ok desi recunoaste ca fetita e cam grasa, de ce te-ai impacienta?
asa ma gandesc io, cu minte mea de-acuma.

daca vrei, o sun si-o-ntreb.
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Postby hostina » Fri Feb 23, 2007 1:51 pm

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Postby doramar » Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:26 pm

parerea mea personala e ca e mult mai greu mai tarziu sa faci un copil sa slabeasca si riscul e a ai un copil obez. din cate stiu eu, la laptele praf nu trebuie sa se depaseasca doza indicata, tocmai din acesta cauza.cred ca e mai bine sa-i dai ceai in completare si sa incepi diversificarea cat de curand. mai intreaba si alti medici pentru ca parerile sunt impartite. unii pur si simplu spun ce-au invatat fara sa puna in balanta avantaje si dezavantaje ( nu ma refer la pediatra in speta [:D] ) exista si alte variante ( ca ceai sau diversificarea) deci [bebe] nu ramane flamand [:D] .

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Postby akki » Sun Feb 25, 2007 12:12 pm

hostina, am aici o carte frantuzeasca, aparuta in 2001.
uite ce zic astia pentru 3 luni: 6 mese/zi a cate 90-105 ml + biberon de noapte.
cu notita: "mai mult daca cere!"
mai scrie ca bebe poa' sa ia si 1,2 kg/luna, daca-i mancacios si ca e ok.

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Postby cristina2012 » Mon Feb 26, 2007 11:43 am

Trebuie sa se dea exact atata lapte praf cat e indicat pentru varsta copilului. Altfel apar probleme legate de metabolism... iar ingrasarea nu e inca cel mai grav. Oricum, tineti cont ca un copil care e gras pana la 3 ani, toata viata va avea probleme cu greutatea si ii va fii foarte greu sa slabeasca, pentru ca in aceasta perioada se formeaza celulele... parca adipocite le zice, care apoi se umfla cu grasime (interveniti va rog, fetele care au facut medicina). O prietena a mea care e medic pediatru era disperata ca fetita ei cerea mai mult lapte decat era indicat pentru varsa ei. Eu i-am zis ca poate ea are nevoie de mai mult, dar mi-a zis ca fetita si asa e putin mai mare decat ar trebui la varsta ei si ca e prea riscant. Nu-i dadea in plus, pentru a nu-i afecta metabolismul cu toate urmarile ce vin de aici.
O alta problema este este data de o afectare a creierului de catre cantitatea prea mare de proteine...

Nmai copiii alimentati la san pot primi exact atata lapte matern cat doresc. Laptele matern este perfect echilibrat si nu afecteaza metabolismul...

Uite si ce am cules de pe net:
"Obezitatea hiperplazica, cu numar crescut de adipocite, depinde de alimentatia primita in copilarie. Numarul adipocitelor la adult este fix. "

"Ca exemplu ilustrativ, sa analizam cazul obezitatii infantile. Desi este vorba de studii preliminare, exista indicii ca problemele care au aparut inca din copilarie pot lasa urme de nesters in "compozitia" organismului unei persoane. Conform unei teorii aparute recent, pentru cei care au fost obezi in copilarie este mai dificil sa reduca din greutate decit pentru cei care incep sa se infrunte cu astfel de probleme intr-o etapa mai tirzie a vietii.

Explicatia teorica este: O persoana se poate ingrasa in doua feluri - prin cresterea numarului de celule grase (adipocite) sau prin cresterea marimii celulelor grase deja existente. Cercetari recente au demonstrat ca un copil supra-alimentat, depoziteaza excesul de energie prin cresterea numarului de celule grase. La un moment dat, in timpul adolescentei, organismul nu mai fabrica noi celule adipoase, iar excesul de calorii se depoziteaza in celulele deja fabricate (marindu-le). Aceasta inseamna ca persoana care este obeza din copilarie poate avea mai multe celule adipoase decit cea care a devenit obeza la o virsta adulta.

Odata cu reducerea in greutate, organismul goleste depozitele de grasime insa nu distruge si celulele. Astfel, doua persoane preocupate de supraponderabilitate pot slabi 9kg fiecare, insa daca una dintre ele a fost obeza in copilarie, va pastra o anumita cantitate excedentara de celule adipoase. In teorie, tendinta pe care o manifesta o persoana spre ingrasarea sau spre recuperarea greutatii perdute, poate fi mai mare atunci cind a crescut numarul celulelor adipoase din corp. Intr-o astfel de situatie, progresul persoanei care a fost obeze inca din copilarie, poate fi mai lent si mai inestabil decit al persoanei care nu a fost."
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Postby akki » Mon Feb 26, 2007 12:14 pm

hostinei
sunt asa de intrigata, incat mi-am sunat pediatrul.
(doctorita cu fetita de 10 kile la 6 luni, e doar medic de familie)

uite ce mi-a spus: "daca zici ca ala micu n-a luat mai mult de un kil pe luna, e ok!"
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