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intoarcerea la serviciu

Legislatie. Drepturile familiei. Informatii despre indemnizatii pentru nastere, concedii de crestere si ingrijire a copilului etc

Postby MihaelaStoiciuc » Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:49 am

Ultimul alineat scris de tine e o mare eroare de judecata, comuna, din pacate. Educatoarele au program de 4 ore pe zi. Dar pentru alea 4 ore ele se mai pregatesc inca 4 - pregatesc lectiile, corecteaza caiete, lucrari, concep testari, fac planuri de lectie etc etc etc.
Dincolo de acest lucru, tot din propia-mi experienta [:o)] , iti spun ca nimic nu se compara cu lucrul cu copiii ca efort. Am lucrat la Yves Rocher - de la 10 dim la 8 seara cu pauza de masa. Apoi masa, baie, schimbat haine, pana la 5 dimineata disco pentru promotii - asta zilnic. Eram corect platita si faceam totul cu pasiune. Eram super fresh a doua zi la 9 cand ma trezeam in comparatie cu o zi in care aveam 5-6 ore la scoala. In ora aia cand te afli in fata clasei ai 25 de perechi de ochi care te urmaresc. Nu poti sa te gandesti aiurea, trebuie sa tii in frau situatia, sa te chinui sa vezi licarirea de intelegere in ochii celui din fata ta, sa-l urnesti din indiferenta lui si sa-l faci sa fie interesat. Etc. E foarte greu, incomparabil.
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Postby alovel » Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:52 am

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Postby MihaelaStoiciuc » Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:53 am

Si referitor la postarea cu incidentul cu CA, vroiam sa mai adaug - pun pariu ca 95% din cititori se intrebau de ce vorbeste asta de cadre didactice cand ea e bibliotecar?!? Cum s-a mirat si conducerea - Doamna, dar de ce aveti salariul asa de mare?!?! Cum, mai mare decat al unui profesor?!?!? Prejudecatile sunt imense...
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Postby MihaelaStoiciuc » Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:55 am

[quote="alovel":16651f][quote="MihaelaStoiciuc":16651f]
Si cine tace si inghite de frica isi merita soarta.
Asa ca....... drepturi ai. Diferenta o face curajul de a ti le sustine si de a nu face compromisuri. [czid] [czid] [/quote:16651f]

Sunt de acord cu asta. Oricum eu nu vorbeam de mine. Eu n-am motive sa ma plang.

Dar sunt cazuri cum am povestit eu, care din birourile bugetarilor nu se vad.

Sunt de acord ca poti apela la lege ca sa-ti sustii drepturile. Am facut si eu asta si procesul treneaza si acum .... Nu cred ca te alegi cu mare lucru nici in justitie, oricum nu cu o cariera in firma respectiva. [cfev] [/quote:16651f]

PS - nu ma refeream strict la tine cand spuneam "tine". M-a cam luat valul [:D] , Intelegi tu...
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Postby alovel » Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:57 am

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Postby MihaelaStoiciuc » Thu Aug 20, 2009 9:06 am

Incerc sa fiu corecta si impartiala [:o)]
Daca au de pregatit o serbare, ai idee cat stau sa caute, sa gandeasca, sa scrie, sa imparta, sa conceapa etc? Daca a doua zi au lucru manual, cat trebuie sa pregateasca materialul didactic? Sau daca au de dat testare - nu trebuie sa conceapa un test, sa-l multiplice etc si apoi sa-l corecteze, sa treaca note in catalog si in carnete... Tot ce inseamna serbare, activitate in scoala si nu numai (excursie, vizita muzeu, serbare cu toata scoala, comenius etc etc) - asta nu se plateste separat. Teoretic nu, dar practic suntem obligati sa prestam tot felul de activitati suplimentare pentru a da bine la dosar. Multi ani dirigintii si invatatoarele au spalat pe jos, au dat cu ceara, au varuit in clase.... In timpul vacantei elevilor ei sunt in activitate. Intr-un fel sau altul - comisii, bac, admitere, supraveghere etc etc etc Concediu au cam 40 de zile pe an - asta ca o umila recunoastere a nevoii de repaus.
Sunt mult mai multe dincolo de aparente. Si toate se fac cu consum nervos si efort intelectual.
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Postby alovel » Thu Aug 20, 2009 9:42 am

Ai fost asa de impartiala ... [:D]

Mai ca imi vine sa ma duc sa dau o mana de ajutor la cadrele didactice care au si de conceput un test, si de multiplicat si de corectat si de trecut note in carnete.

Uite, vin sa le ajut azi dupa-amiaza pe la 17, dupa job, unde le gasesc la munca? [coarda]
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Postby bibishka » Thu Aug 20, 2009 10:38 am

nu ca as avea ceva cu tine Miha , dar sunt de acord cu Alovel intrutotul.....
nu am timp acum , insa ea a punctat niste chestii si vreau sa adaug si eu ceva la ele....
discutia de aici mi se pare ca este identica cu cea de la cafelutza .....unde Letzy apara medici.....dar pe noi cele patite nu are cum sa ne convinga.....


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Postby MihaelaStoiciuc » Thu Aug 20, 2009 11:26 am

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Postby mary_lou » Thu Aug 20, 2009 12:35 pm

Am citit, am disecat posturile ...Dreptate are fiecare, insa partial...
Eu nu spun ca meseria cutare e mai importanta decat ailalta...Personal, cred ca medicii au cea mai mare misiune pe acest pamant- nu aviatori, astia de se duc pe la razboaie, presedinti, profesori, avocati, samd. Oricine poate fi orice..mai putin medic, daca nu are vocatie, chemare sau cum s-o numi...Sa te joci cu moartea, sa ai pe "mana" ta oameni nu e un lucru usor...Si totusi si ei au venituri foarte mici...Eu cred ca plata pentru munca prestata, ar trebui sa nu tina cont de prejudecati - gen eu muncesc mai mult ca tine acasa, eu am munca mai solicitanta ca a ta etc...Eu cred ca ar trebui platita eficienta muncii prestate, sa fie o ierarhizare in fiecare sector de activitate si niciodata sa nu se puna pe acelasi nivel munca unui profesor, cu a unui medic, cu a unui contabil, cu a unui avocat etc...
De exemplu: diferentiere intre veniturile la profesori ar putea fi foarte bine facute in functie de materia pe care o preda, de numaru de elevi..Sa nu imi spuneti ca un profesor de logica e mai tare decat unu de mate..O diferentiere in sensu asta...
Parerea mea ca atata timp cat vom fi guvernati de generatia "incuiata, comunista" nu vom ajunge nicaieri si polemicile care se creiaza se sting asa de repede precum se aprind...
Se pune accentul pe studii...Cu stupoare am constatat la o comisie de concurs o cucoana expert contabil - nu a stiut o banala problema de fiscalitate...Dar a stiut sa imi fluture in nas cartoane cu diverse cursuri...
Conteaza si cartoanele - asta e societatea in care traim..De ce noua ne cer cartoane mai marii ce ne conduc cand ei si le iau abia dupa ce se aseaza confortabil in "scaune "la facultati fatome?E bine sa fii justitiar, sa ai curaj sa spui nu atunci cand nu-ti convine ceva, dar uneori ...nu-ti mai poti permite asta...





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