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Forum CopilulMeu • View topic - Femeia sef!

Femeia sef!

Educatie sexuala. Despre placere. Sexul si cuplul. Fantezii si jocuri erotice. Disfunctii si remedii.

Postby Claire » Sat Apr 01, 2006 1:19 pm

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Postby Orhideea » Sat Apr 01, 2006 9:15 pm

hmmm, eu sunt o femeie sef, da, la mine la firma si da, sunt al dreaq dar numai uneori, cand e nevoie. in rest fetele se supara cand plec mai devreme sa stau cu asta mica, o fi oare din respect sau chiar sunt o dulce uneori?? adevarul e ca am avut si eu la randul meu o femeie sef.... [czid] dezastru. depinde si de caracter, si de femeie. ca si la barbati.
si depinde si de domeniu
Alege ce iubesti, iar apoi iubeste ceea ce ai ales

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Postby claudia28 » Sun Apr 02, 2006 12:45 pm

Cred ca ai dreptate Orhideea. Depinde de caracter si la femeie si la barbati. nu e nici o deosebire. Capacitatea de a conduce o firma sau de a lucra cu oamenii, nu sta intre picioare.
Pe de alta parte, cred ca fac pe durii, femeile si barbatii carora le e frica de faptul ca nu ar putea sa se impuna in fata celor din jur. Cand te simti amenintat sau, de ce nu, inferior, tipi, mizind pe bunul simt al subalternilor.
Bine, mai sunt si cazuri cand seful are dreptate, desi se spune caseful are intotdeauna dreptate [ Rad cu gura pana la urechi]
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Re: Femeia sef!

Postby karenina » Mon Apr 03, 2006 8:50 am

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Postby 7dworfs » Mon Apr 03, 2006 10:49 am

Si totusi, revenind la concepte, ce anume credeti ca face diferentierea intre conducatorul barbat si conducatorul femeie?
Ma gandeam la un exercitiu, sa aleg cateva cuvinte ce definesc seful sau membrul echipei (ex. intuitie, strategie, rutina, risc, explorator, etc.) si apoi sa le atribui fiecarui concept, femeie si barbat, insa mi-a fost teama ca masculul din mine sa nu devina subiectiv in alegerea acestora.
M-am gandit apoi si la reversul medaliei, barbatul sau femeia asistent manager (as fi spus secretar/a dar cineva de la mine din firma s-a suparat tare cand i-am spus secretara si era de fapt asistent manager - de! de cand toate meseriile au devenit job-uri, chiar si agentul, sofer pe un papuc, ce cara marfa la chioscuri si ia comenzi e director de vanzari). Cum a-ti sau v-ati vedea intr-o astfel de postura, sa rapundeti la telefon, sa tineti agenda, sa scrieti memo-uri si alte cele?
Si vin si cu exemplul personal.
-Cand trebuie sa fac un lucru de mai multe ori (rutina) nu-mi mai place. Nu ma gandesc cum sa fac activitatea cat mai eficient, standard, ci cum sa gasesc o solutie sa nu o mai fac eu, sa se faca automat sau de altcineva.
-Acasa imi intreb intotdeauna sotia unde se afla x obiect si rapunsul e acelasi - la locul lui, dar unde e locul lui...?!
Evident ca judecam statutul de sef prin prisma pozitiei pe care o avem si a experientelor avute cu sefii nostrii. Definim seful plecand de la asteptarile noatre vis-a-vis de el, seful. Vrem sa ne fie protector, sa decida in favoarea noastra, sa fie preocupat de grijile noastre.
De cateva luni fac un curs de leadership, genul ala de cursuri care nu ne spune nimic nou, dar care-ti pune in ordine ideile pe care le aveai deja. De aici si zgarietura asta pe creierul meu, cine-i mai bun, femeia, barbatul...
Ce anume ne diferentiaza mai mult, bagajul genetic, evolutia, educatia?
De fapt toate 3 inclina catre barbat. Baietelul il lasam sa se descurce singur, ca doar e baiat, pe fetita o ingrijim mai mult, o protejam, ca doar e fetita, baietelul sa caute solutii la probleme, sa repare masinuta noua ce tocmai am cumparat-o, fetita sa-i faca baie papusii, sa-i fie doctorita papusii.
Si totusi, in spatele fiecarui barbat de succes se afla o femeie obosita si toate marile imperii au fost conduse din umbra de femei, si-atunci?
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Postby alovel » Mon Apr 03, 2006 10:53 am

Daca as avea puterea sa schimb prejudecatile ...... daca m-ar mai ajuta cineva ..... daca nu m-as mai lupta cu morile de vant ..... daca femeile nu s-ar complace in situatia lor ... daca, daca, daca .... ah, cum ar fi lumea asta!!
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Postby ygrec » Mon Apr 03, 2006 11:45 am

Femeia sef devine scorpie atunci cand nu empatizeaza cu necazurile personale ale fiecaruia.
Unui barbat sef, daca iti spune
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Postby ananda » Tue Apr 04, 2006 11:34 pm

cred ca femeia si barbatul au roluri complementare - asta nu inseamna ca nu sunt intersanjabile! exista niste modele comportamentale ancestrale - barbatul a fost mai puternic (fizic) deci el a preluat puterea... femeia a terbuit sa se multumeasca sa conduca din umbra, ceea ce in general a facut cu mult succes. exista societati in care acest "dimorfism social" daca-l pot numi asa e impins la extrem (gen societatile musulmane, care nu rezerva femeii nici macar un loc in rai!), dar exista si societati matrarhale...
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Postby karenina » Thu Apr 06, 2006 8:28 am

De-a lungul timpului am avut si femei -sef si barbati -sef. Am mai spus ca nu conteaza sexul ci doar caracterul, dar daca ar fi sa aleg dintre un barbat si o femeie la fel de pregatiti si care merita la fel de mult acest post as alege o femeie.
De ce?
Pentru ca:
au mai mult simt practic;
sunt prezente placute;
stiu sa faca distinctia intre o problema si o persoana;
sunt mult mai constiincioase;
sunt mult mai corecte;
sunt mult mai ambitioase.
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Postby DRIANA » Thu Apr 06, 2006 11:40 pm

Imi pare rau dc.va dezamagesc, dar femeile sunt intotdeauna mai bune decat barbatii. Am sa va explic maine de ce si cum, dar acum trebuie sa fac nani.
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