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Avortul

Metode contraceptive traditionale si moderne. Bebelusul: programare sau surpriza? Experiente, dezbateri pro si contra pentru diferite metode contraceptive.

Postby fire » Wed May 14, 2008 4:05 pm

Spoveditul e ca sa te descarci de pacate si preotul de obicei iti da rugaciuni de spus. La spovedanie poti sa spui orice preotului, te spovedesti daca simti ca trebuie sa-ti descarci sufletul cu ceva, daca stii sau simti ca ai gresit sau pur si simplu spoveditul pentru cei credinciosi e ca si apa zilnica, deci au nevoie de asta pentru a se simti curati si impacati cu ei si cu Dumnezeu. Postul de care am amintit mai sus se poate tine si de femeile care au pierdut un copil sau o sarcina fara vrerea lor, deci vorbesc de avorturile spontane. Ceea ce stiu de la bunica mea e ca acest post e intr-adevar de ajutor acestor copii nenascuti. Probabil ca sunt si alte rugaciuni pe care le poti spune dar eu nu le stiu. Pa.
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Postby adeluta75 » Wed May 14, 2008 7:15 pm

Da..m-ai pus pe ganduri...despre asa ceva inca nu am auzit inca.

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Postby cristina2012 » Fri May 16, 2008 1:01 pm

Medicii nu prea spun... ei sunt pentru pilule si pentru sterilet, metode modicale care par mai eficiente si sunt acceptate de femei pentru ca sunt facile. Mai mult, medicii tind sa considere inceputul vietii abia in momentul nidatiei, deci nu considera ca fiind avort moartea embrionului. Oricum, la cate avorturi au vazut si au facut ei, ceea ce pot produce pilulele sau steriletul sau spermicidele, e insignifiant pentru ei. Chiar medicii care nu fac avorturi, tot recomanda pilule si pun sterilete. Si mie doctorul mi-a spus ca steriletul nu produce avort timpuriu, ca actioneaza doar ca o bariera impotriva acensiunii spermatozoizilor in uter. Eu insa citisem mult (inclusiv lucrari de specialitate) asa ca atunci cand am ripostat si am adus dovezi, a zis si el ca se mai intampla [czid] ... dar eu nu puteam sa risc sa se mai intample unui copil al meu sa moara, asa ca... am mai cautat pe net pana am gasit instructori pentru metode naturale ca sa evit o urmatoare sarcina.

Coca, eu retinusem de la alte subiecte, ca tu fumezi. Anticonceptionalele sunt foarte riscante pentru sanatate in combinatie cu fumatul.
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Postby mischaela » Mon May 19, 2008 6:37 pm

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Postby MihaelaStoiciuc » Tue May 20, 2008 4:22 pm

Mie mi se pare deplasat de-acuma sa sustii ca anticonceptionalele sunt un fel de avort mascat - da-o-ncolo de treaba!!!!!! Pai atunci si masturbarea e tot un "avort" - ca se irosesc atatia spermatozoizi sau menstruatia, ca se "arunca" ovulul....... E exagerat de-acuma. Adica nu e pacat sa faci sex in afara casatoriei - asta e ok, dar sa iei anticonceptionale e criminal [czid] [czid]
Eu zic sa nu devenim extremiste. Uneori avortul isi are rostul lui.
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Postby mischaela » Tue May 20, 2008 4:32 pm

stai ca iar im aduc aminte de povestea cu viitorul preotel care o pune pe viitoarea nevasta sa faca avort din cauza ca a ramas insarcinata inaintea casatoriei .... [czid]
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Postby cristina2012 » Tue May 20, 2008 11:29 pm

Nu doar femeia e vinovata ci si barbatul. Daca el e cel care a fortat-o e si mai vinovat ca ea. Canon se da si barbatului. Femeia tine post, femeii i se citeste molitva, pentru ca ea e cea care sufera crunt urmarile avortului. Aceste practici au ca scop vindecarea sufletului si a trupului ei.

Masturbarea e pacat, se da un canon mai mic si pentru ea, dar nu are legatura cu avortul. Spermatozoizii nu sunt fiinte umane, sunt celulele tatalui, contin ADN-ul tatalui si nu al unei alte fiinte. Un om se formeaza atunci cand gametul feminin si cel masculin se intalnesc si are loc fecundatia. Din acea clipa exista un alt om, un alt ADN, cu totul diferit de tatal si de mama sa, care timp de o saptamana va supravietui independent de corpul mamei si apoi se va nida si va fii hranit de mama, dar fara sa i se mai adauge nimic din ceea ce este el din momentul fecundatiei, moment din care primeste si suflet.

Sexul in afara casatoriei, inainte, dupa, in paralel, este considerat pacat si este canonisit.

Ovulul, care nici el nu este fiinta omeneasca, ci doar o celula feminina, cu ADN identic cu al mamei, nu "se arunca" in timpul menstruatiei, el imbatraneste si moare daca nu este fecundat si 'se arunca" atunci fara sa-l vedem (e doar o celula), deci cu multe zile inainte de urmatoarea menstruatie.

Avortul nu are niciodata un rost al lui, e doar o crima impotriva unui copil neajutorat. Biserica nu-i poate acorda niciodata vreun rost, pentru ca biserica apara integritatea oricarui om, indiferent de varsta si capacitatile lui.

Mischaela, sunt destule anomalii... asta nu inseamna nimic. Adevarul e unul singur, nu-l putem stalci dupa oameni.

Sa stii ca si barbatii au necuratia lor... cand au polutii... vezi, e echitate [:D]
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