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Forum CopilulMeu • View topic - Discriminarea mamelor si campania de marire a natalitatii
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Discriminarea mamelor si campania de marire a natalitatii

PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 2:23 pm
by jasa
Buna,

Uite ce am citit eu astazi:
"Populatia Romaniei scade - Divizia Natiunilor Unite pentru populatie avertizeaza: populatia Romaniei scade. Daca natalitatea se mentine in ritmul actual, in 2050 jumatate din romani vor avea peste 60 de ani. In prezent, un cetatean activ alimenteaza din taxele si impozitele pe care le plateste 3 pensionari, iar in 2050, in conditiile imbatranirii populatiei, s-ar ajunge ca un cetatean activ sa sutina 9 pensionari.
Imbatranirea este un fenomen specific tuturor tarilor europene

PostPosted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 2:51 pm
by robertzica
Eu una, nu am nascut inca, sper sa nasc in cateva zile. Sunt in prenatal si pot sa spun ca si eu am avut o parere buna despre firma la care lucrez DAR am constatat ca lucrurile s-au schimbat din momentul in care au constientizat ca voi avea un copil. M-am simtit marginalizata, au incercat sa imi calce drepturile in picioare iar shefu' are pretentia sa lucrez de acasa, in prenatal!!!!

Eu nu vreau sa ma mai intorc la firma aia... nu stiu, exact, ce am sa fac dupa ce va creste bebe dar, stiu sigur ca nu mai vreau sa ma intorc acolo.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 5:10 pm
by bren
Cred ca treaba asta cu marginalizarea se intampla in toata lumea nu numai in Romania
Ganditi-va ca in Italia , unde traiesc in prezent , concediul de maternitate de dupa nastere este de 3 luni.Si se plang ca nu se fac copii!

PostPosted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 5:39 pm
by gazzella
cred ca se poate prelungi in unele cazuri pana la 7 luni.
de la 6 luni poti sa-l duci la gradinita pe bb
exact cum ziceam, cresele, gradinitele nu sunt decat parcari, mama trebuie sa reintre in procesul lavorativ altfel risca sa-si piarda serviciul...
halal societate [czid]

PostPosted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 6:53 pm
by robertzica
Si in statele unite, tot 3 luni este concediul pentru cresterea copilului in plus, angajatorul nu este obligat sa iti pastreze postul. Si, totusi, se nasc copii acolo...

PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 11:20 am
by bren
Eu nu concep sa fac un copil si sa-i las pe altii sa mi-l creasca.Cum as putea sa-mi las ingerasul la cresa pentru "n" ore pe zi si sa nu-l vad?

PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 12:41 pm
by gazzella
bren, doar tu nu concepi asta... si poate inca o minoranta...
dar marea majoritate asa procedeaza...si unde mai pui ca sunt si multumiti [czid]
au copii independenti cica....

PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 2:33 pm
by bren
Copii independenti la 1 , 2 ani.Cred ca cei care gandesc asa au o micuta problema la cap.
Am doua vecine care si-au trimis copii de la varsta de 1 an la cresa si toata noaptea se aud plangand si strigandu-si mama.Cred ca sunt niste copii stresati si care se simt abandonati.Pana la 3 ani copilul are mare nevoie sa creasca langa mama si intr-un mediu familiar lui.
Ma bucur ca esti de aceeasi parere cu mine

PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 4:03 pm
by aceeasi_eu
Revenind la subiect,o firma respectabila nu cred ca vede in angajata mama, decat daca acea angajata ii da motive s-o faca.
Daca cele doua planuri nu sunt confundate,iar roadele muncii se vad,acea angajata promite.nu vad de ce nu i-ar fii acceptate anumite proiecte.
Decat ,doar daca acesta nu este un motiv,daca in spatele acestuia se ascund cauzele reale...
Cati oameni falsi nu am intalnit ,care spun una si gandesc alta??Iar de cele mai multe ori acesti oameni...au intentii bune,cica nu vor sa lezeze si atunci se ascund in spatele motivelor.
Daca aveti asemenea sefi,nu stiu daca vreodata proiectele vor fii luate in seama,indiferent de faptul ca esti sau nu mamica

PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 7:26 pm
by aceeasi_eu
Iar legat de faptul ca micutii intra in colectivitate de la varste fragede,eu una nu as putea critica.
E alta societate,voi cele care traiti acolo,puteti compara copiii cr4escuti in sanul familiei si cei care au program de familie.
Eu as opta ptr copiii din colectivitati si cred ca ei se dezvolta independenti,cred ca de aici apare si acea libertate pe care si-o doresc de la varste fragede,dorinta de a fii propriul stapan,dorinta de a avea un job cat de curand,de a zbura...
Pot spune ca noi acei parinti,care nu ne datasam atat de repede de micuti,nu o facem nici mai tarziu,nu dam posibilitatea copilului de a lua propria decizie,el va simti mereu prezenta mamei sau a familiei in viata lui si aici nu ma refer la familia propriu-zisa ,ci familia cea care il calauzeste.
Eu cred,dar inca nu aplic acest lucru,imi doresc sa pot fii asa,insa societatea noastra in care traim este mult prea perversa si vreau ca ai mei copii sa simta in mine sprijinul si vreau sastiu de experientele lor placute si mai ales neplacute ptr a sti EI altadata cum sa actioneze...
Deci,nu cred ca ma contrazic...
Aici pornind de la mesajul pe care l-am scris anterior,in aceasta societate nu intalnim atat de des oameni onesti care spun lucrurilor pe nume si se ascund dupa motive.
Vreau sa pregatesc copiii mei sa deduca cauza reala a unui refuz si nu motivul...