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Forum CopilulMeu • View topic - fimoza
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2004 12:22 pm
by ingrid0212
dragii mei,
am postat si eu, ca mamica de baietel (1 an si 7 luni) la acest subiect. Am urmarit cu interes "dezbaterea" voastra. De cate ori merg cu baiatul la medicul pediatru imi spune cu insistenta ca trebuie sa rezolv problema, pentru ca orice fimoza duce, mai devreme sau mai tarziu, la infectii urinare. Vreau sa spun ca la Cristi (baietelul meu) nu se poate "trage" deloc de pielea aceea, e complet lipita. Am primit si trimitere la spital, dar nu m-am dus (inca). Mai vreau sa spun ca sora mea, care este stabilitat in Germania, a operat baiatul la aproape 6 ani, dupa 2 infectii urinare. Operatia in sine ("crestare" - deci nu circumcizie; cusatura cu fir resorbabil) a durat putin, sub anestezie generala, dar perioada postoperatorie a fost foarte dificila... Si asta la un copil mai maricel, cu care te pot totusi intelege... Numai la gandul asta ma trece spaima si tot aman vizita la spital !
Ingrid

PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2004 12:39 pm
by danamar
Nu este vorba despre copilul medicului tau ci despre copilul tau,asa ca spune-i sa nu te mai oboseasca cu astfel de insistente.Daca pielea este perfect lipita,este bine dupa parerea mea.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2004 12:41 pm
by danamar
Daca ai avea o fetita,ai dezvirgina-o ,la insistentele doctorului?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2004 3:46 pm
by cristi999
Ingrid:

Medici incompetenti sint peste tot, nu doar in Romania ci si in Germania, Canada, SUA sau altundeva.
Acesta "credinta" ca fimoza congenitala (atasarea preputului de gland la copilul mic) cauzeaza infectii sau alte probleme este un mit medical care nu a fost nicidata luat in serios de comunitatea medicala internationala.
Interventia chirurgicala, chiar si minimala, si chiar daca nu este vorba de circumcizie ci de slit dorsal, nu este dorita pentru ca are riscuri si poate conduce la desensibilizarea penisului.
Cum se poate ca o stare normala, naturala, cum este fimoza congenitala, sa cauzeze infectie? Numai un medic incompetent si ignorant despre functiile preputului si a secretiilor preputiale poate afirma asa ceva! Cum poate sa se infecteze cand smegma are rol de protectie contra infectiilor???

Eu am mai postat traduceri din paginile CIRP pe aici prin forumuri - daca nu ai avut ocazia sa citesti iata textele respective insotite de bibliografie:


Secretiile preputiale sint normale si nu cauzeaza nici o problema. Apar de regula sub forma smegmei iar recomandarea medicala este spalarea externa cu apa fara sapun, pentru ca sapunul irita, distruge bacteria de piele si astfel conduce la aparitia infectiilor. Smegma este o substanta naturala ce contine celule de piele moarte, flora normala si secretii ce contin un agent natural antibacterial (lisozime) ce se acumuleaza in prezenta preputului, si care are rol de protectie impotriva infectiilor.
Preputul pe langa rolul senzorial

PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2004 3:57 pm
by cristi999

Ingrid:

In caz de nevoie ma poti contacta la t100ca2000@yahoo.com.

Cauza infectiilor urinare este de regula data de recomandarea medicala gresita de a utiliza sapunul in igiena intima la baieti.
Alte cauze pot fi date de lipsa alaptatului la san (sistem imunitar mai slab) sau o usoara malformare a tractului urinar.

Fimoza congenitala nu are nimic de-a face cu toate acestea.

www.cirp.org


PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2004 6:27 pm
by magdacorlea
[b]cristi999[/b]: nu cred ca medicul acela o hartuieste si o sileste sa-si opereze copilul. Cred ca refuzul mamei e de-ajuns.
Pe de alta parte, finul meu care are 3 ani acum, a avut aceleasi simptome amintite mai sus si la varsta de 2 ani si 6 luni a trebuit operat, pentru ca incepuse sa urineze intrerupt.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2004 11:17 pm
by cristi999
Magda:
Ingrid spune ca:


PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 9:41 am
by ingrid0212
Multumesc Cristi, m-am mai linistit.
Sora mea, in Germania, a fost cu baiatul la un medic urolog pediatru. El a spus ca NU recomanda operatia, avand si el doi baieti de 11-12 ani. Avand insa in vedere cele 2 infectii urinare (la interval scurt, de cca. 2 luni), a dat totusi trimitere la chirurgie unde s-a efectuat interventia.
De asta mi-e mie un pic teama, probabil ca smegma se colecteaza acolo si nu poate fi spalata cu apa, pentru ca "pielea" este complet lipita ! Ce ma mai nelinisteste un pic este ca toate mamicile de baietei din parc au "rezolvat" problema, fie prin decalotare la baie (eu nu am putut niciodata, pentru copil era neplacut asa ca nu am insistat), fie prin "interventie" la medic.
Imi pare bine ca exista si altfel de opinii la noi in tara !
Cu salutari
Ingrid

PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 4:06 pm
by cristi999
Ingrid:
Iata parerea mea:


PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 4:24 pm
by ingrid0212
Inca o intrebare:
scriai ca, la un moment dat, se poate face tratament cu un unguent cu steroizi. Sant medici la noi in Romania care prescriu acest unguent ?? Se pare ca toti sant "obsedati" de fimoza si de interventia chirurgicala.
Multumesc inca odata
Ingrid